4: The Book of the Fours
XVIII. Intention — AN 4.175: With Upavāṇa
- © Translated from the Pali by Bhante Sujato. (More copyright information)
1Then Venerable Upavāṇa went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, Upavāṇa sat down to one side, and said to Sāriputta:
2“Reverend Sāriputta, do you become a terminator because of knowledge?”
3“That’s not it, reverend.”
4“Do you become a terminator because of conduct?”
5“That’s not it, reverend.”
6“Do you become a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct?”
7“That’s not it, reverend.”
8“Do you become a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct?”
9“That’s not it, reverend.”
10“Reverend Sāriputta, when asked whether you become a terminator because of knowledge or conduct or knowledge and conduct, or for some other reason, you say ‘that’s not it’. How then do you become a terminator?”
11“Reverend, if you became a terminator because of knowledge, then even someone who still has grasping could be a terminator.
If you became a terminator because of conduct, then even someone who still has grasping could be a terminator.
If you became a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct, then even someone who still has grasping could be a terminator.
If you became a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct, then even an ordinary person could be a terminator. For an ordinary person lacks knowledge and conduct.
Reverend, someone lacking good conduct does not know and see things as they are. Someone accomplished in good conduct knows and sees things as they are. Knowing and seeing things as they are, one is a terminator.”
1Atha kho āyasmā upavāṇo yenāyasmā sāriputto tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā sāriputtena saddhiṁ sammodi. Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā upavāṇo āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
2"Kiṁ nu kho, āvuso sāriputta, vijjāyantakaro hotī"ti?
4"Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, caraṇenantakaro hotī"ti?
6"Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī"ti?
8"Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, aññatra vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī"ti?
10"‘Kiṁ nu kho, āvuso sāriputta, vijjāyantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno: ‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, caraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno: ‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno: ‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi. ‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, aññatra vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno: ‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi. Yathā kathaṁ panāvuso, antakaro hotī"ti?
11"Vijjāya ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
Caraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
Vijjācaraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
Aññatra vijjācaraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, puthujjano antakaro abhavissa. Puthujjano hi, āvuso, aññatra vijjācaraṇena.
Caraṇavipanno kho, āvuso, yathābhūtaṁ na jānāti na passati. Caraṇasampanno yathābhūtaṁ jānāti passati. Yathābhūtaṁ jānaṁ passaṁ antakaro hotī"ti.
Pañcamaṁ.